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		<title>By: jff</title>
		<link>http://www.joaoff.com/2008/05/09/multiples-in-the-fibonacci-series/comment-page-1/#comment-1581</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Manish,

thanks for your comment. First, I don&#039;t know why you say that the property you use is a fact. If you replace n by 2 and k by 1, the lefthand side becomes fib.(2*(1+1)) = fib.4 = 3 . On the other hand, the righthand side becomes fib.(1+1)*fib.(2*1) + fib.(1)*fib.(2*1-1) = fib.2 * fib.2 + fib.1 * fib.1 = 1*1 + 1*1 = 2 . Clearly, the property is not valid.

Second, the nice thing about formulating and using distributivity properties is that the induction is somehow hidden. If you read JFF0 (it&#039;s in the Publications page), you see that the induction process is formulated in terms of loop invariance. Also, by formulating sufficient conditions for a function to distribute over the greatest common divisor, we avoid doing induction everytime.

Joao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Manish,</p>
<p>thanks for your comment. First, I don&#8217;t know why you say that the property you use is a fact. If you replace n by 2 and k by 1, the lefthand side becomes fib.(2*(1+1)) = fib.4 = 3 . On the other hand, the righthand side becomes fib.(1+1)*fib.(2*1) + fib.(1)*fib.(2*1-1) = fib.2 * fib.2 + fib.1 * fib.1 = 1*1 + 1*1 = 2 . Clearly, the property is not valid.</p>
<p>Second, the nice thing about formulating and using distributivity properties is that the induction is somehow hidden. If you read JFF0 (it&#8217;s in the Publications page), you see that the induction process is formulated in terms of loop invariance. Also, by formulating sufficient conditions for a function to distribute over the greatest common divisor, we avoid doing induction everytime.</p>
<p>Joao</p>
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		<title>By: Manish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 05:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to prove it using induction.
for k =1; F(k) = 1; so all F(n*k) are divisible by F(k)

Let&#039;s assume for k, the proposition is true ie F(n*k) is a muliple of F(k)

Now we use the fact(I do not have a proof for it. This is based on observation.) that F(n*(k+1)) = [ F(k+1)]*F(n*k)+ [F(k)]*F(n*k-1)

Which clearly means that F(n*(k+1)) also is divisible by F(k).

-Manish

Th</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to prove it using induction.<br />
for k =1; F(k) = 1; so all F(n*k) are divisible by F(k)</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume for k, the proposition is true ie F(n*k) is a muliple of F(k)</p>
<p>Now we use the fact(I do not have a proof for it. This is based on observation.) that F(n*(k+1)) = [ F(k+1)]*F(n*k)+ [F(k)]*F(n*k-1)</p>
<p>Which clearly means that F(n*(k+1)) also is divisible by F(k).</p>
<p>-Manish</p>
<p>Th</p>
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		<title>By: jff</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s just the (n*k)th Fibonacci number :-) Thanks for your comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s just the (n*k)th Fibonacci number <img src='http://www.joaoff.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks for your comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 19:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s right, I disregarded fib.(n*k) represents a number, thanks for the help. Congratulations! Your work it&#039;s really interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s right, I disregarded fib.(n*k) represents a number, thanks for the help. Congratulations! Your work it&#8217;s really interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: jff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 19:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hugo,

If fib.k divides fib.(n*k), then the greatest common divisor of fib.k and fib.(n*k) is fib.k (it divides both, and is the largest divisor of itself).

Also, if fib.k is the greatest common divisor of itself and fib.(n*k), then it clearly divides fib.(n*k).

Do you agree?

Joao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hugo,</p>
<p>If fib.k divides fib.(n*k), then the greatest common divisor of fib.k and fib.(n*k) is fib.k (it divides both, and is the largest divisor of itself).</p>
<p>Also, if fib.k is the greatest common divisor of itself and fib.(n*k), then it clearly divides fib.(n*k).</p>
<p>Do you agree?</p>
<p>Joao</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 18:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you help me understand your second equality?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you help me understand your second equality?</p>
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